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Paltz, who had received his doctorate at Erfurt in 1483, left Erfurt in 1507, but Nathin, who had studied under Biel in Tuebingen from 1484 to 1486, remained in Erfurt for many years. In this connection we may add that Staupitz studied at Tuebingen a few years after Biel's death. ... lost in the realms of metaphysics and in speculation about God